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pylduck ([personal profile] pylduck) wrote2002-05-10 08:07 am

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Free, I want to be free! Frolicking in the summer sun, melting with cones of fruity and chocolately ice cream, I want to be free!

Re: freedom

[identity profile] virtualexile.livejournal.com 2002-05-10 08:42 am (UTC)(link)
Plato's full of shit :o)

Plus, if a soul is deathless, why should any of us mind either suicide or murder?

Re: freedom

[identity profile] pylduck.livejournal.com 2002-05-10 08:51 am (UTC)(link)
Plato's (Socrates's) argumentation makes no sense to me, either. How he proves that the soul (or anything) is indestructible is to say that a thing and its opposite can never co-exist, and hence must mean one simply retreats in the face of the other. One example Socrates uses is heat and cold. He says since heat can never be cold, when heat becomes cold it has not been destroyed, but has just left to another place. Whatever.

But in terms of the deathless soul, that's where he argues that the goal of the soul is purification with ultimate transcendence (as opposed to reincarnation), and that's where suicide and murder will set you back a few incarnations.

Re: freedom

[identity profile] virtualexile.livejournal.com 2002-05-10 09:01 am (UTC)(link)
If suicide will protect me from "purification" I'm all for it ;-)